Believe it or not! there are still some Automation menus missing!!! The menus we require are all V1 menus, in other words menus which have subsequently been re-released due to one or another factor (STe fix etc). So if you have any of the following Automation menus please get in touch!!

134 with auto\Menu prg size NOT 14,018
135 with auto\Menu prg size NOT 22,734 or 50,191
141 with auto\Menu prg size NOT 19,156
381 with Fire Rescue hack screen not 512k
509 with auto\Menu prg size NOT 6,912 (original released by Voodoo)
510 with auto\Menu prg size NOT 21,070 (original released by Voodoo)

Shw

Another one found! (Automation 135v1) :)

Shw

Just while we're on the subject of fixed menus, I have been checking through my disks and imaging even the broken ones now, and found a bug on one of the STe fixed menus.
Automation 97 - we all know why this one is cool (Dungeon Master!) on the original menu had raster scrollers on top and bottom and looked real nice, but on the fixed one only has a scroller on the bottom but no rasters.  Ho hum, but the problem is that the fixed menu craps out on a 1mb STf with TOS 1.0, but works fine on a STe with TOS 1.62.
Will check on my 1mb 1.02 machine in the next day or so.

and how goes the DVD gents!?

Cheers

karlm.

Hi Karlm,

I'll look at fixing this menu :)

Shw

..... THe last time I seen all the menus in one place was at The Laws house..... ???? on 5.25 floppy discs???? ... I don't know how he got them onto 5.25 discs but he did !!!!

He say if he was ever raided he could just run a chain saw down them all.... maybe he got raided (NOT!!) LOL

Peace to all

GRAViL
aka Doug

Hi Doug!

I've still got that 5.25" drive! Unfortunatly the disks are all long gone, destroyed in the migration to the PC era. Oh X-Wing, what a wonderful thing you were at the time...... It seems "a long time ago, In a galaxy far, far away" since LucasArts released anything with high quality standards and remotely worth playing.


Good to hear from you again :)

CJ/Law.

As I understand LSD Menu 1 and Menu 3 has been found.. anybody got Menu 2?

// Marcer

nope

Btw.. Those last standing menus.. is it only intressting to get the complete disk. or just the menu prg? if only the menu prg which is mainly important. Maybe seek throw all these Intro Compils could be an idea!

As while im checkin my menus, i stumble upon quite lot of automation menu intros!

// Marcer

134,141 & 267 are just the menu prgs

509 & 510 are menus with completely different games on!

Cheers
Shw

Shw wrote on 25.01.09 at 21:44:40:

134,141 & 267 are just the menu prgs

mmmh, I always assumed that the way to differentiate between v1's and v2' (STe fixes) was by file size, but I was thinking, some may be the same size! so i'm gonna byte compare some menu prgs.

Shw

Wee a good way to tell a v2 is the scroller start saying "THIS MENU WAS FIXED FOR TOS 1.09 BY...." :)

Many didn't have different scrollers.

I think most simply changed the values written to $fffffa21.w
hence maybe same size! :)

Phil

I've byte compared all the different sources of Automation menus. All are identical.. so the hunt continues....

why oh why oh why did I copy the V2's over my original v1's :(


Shw

Shw wrote on 19.02.09 at 07:32:55:

I've byte compared all the different sources of Automation menus. All are identical.. so the hunt continues.... why oh why oh why did I copy the V2's over my original v1's :( Shw

I'd hazard a guess that at the time you didn't see the point of hanging on to inferior code that you'd fixed and didn't see the point in 'wasting' disks - and the idea that In 20 or so years you might want this original code you were copying over for a preservation project didn't really cross your mind.

Hindsight is an exact science as they say.

However - unless you can flag down a passing timelord and ask him to tell the you of 1987 not to copy over the original disks, then it's a moot point.. :)

I thing "The Bible", Automation menu section, need (very little) update, because it say some Automation menus (v1) what are found there are still in missing list.

Hi Jake

I think the 'bible' is correct and not the thread on here. I'll check when i get home.

shw

Jake,

in fact the bible was correct, so I've edited the original post in this thread to reflect what's still missing.

Regards
Shw

317 with total.vap not 2,942.

I found one where total.vap is 2735.

I packed and sended it very soon.

Here it go.

(I send this Crackdown disk too, but i think it is maybe only same version like cd 275, but without menu.)

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I look Automation 28 scroll and there is text "finished menu", so is there one missing (v1) menu somewhere? (Scrolltext say it´s because some games need to be start using auto-folder and that´s why one game is now in other menu or something like that.)

Jake-Depression wrote on 22.05.09 at 23:19:25:

(I send this Crackdown disk too, but i think it is maybe only same version like cd 275, but without menu.)

Jake-Depression wrote on 22.05.09 at 22:56:36:

317 with total.vap not 2,942. I found one where total.vap is 2735. I packed and sended it very soon.

Great, this is 317v1 ! well done Jake :)

Shw

Hi

I've uploaded the latest version of the Automation / D-Bug / BBC bible.

http://d-bug.mooo.com/dbug/TheBible.xls

we still need help filling the gaps!

Shw

I found Obliterator by Was not was (1 disk) and Winter supersports 92 by TBE (1 disk). They not are in list. Is these needet?

Edit.
I see Obliterator is in Hang Loose archive:
http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Obliterator

And TBE Winter Supersports 92 is there too...
http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Winter%20Super%20Sports%201992

Edit 2:
Is TBE disks actually needet?
Like The Bald Eagle Art CD 1.

Hi Jake

yes TBE menus are welcome. thanks for the heads up re:Obliterator

Ok here's the latest bible

Shw

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BBC/TMB Midwinder 2 and Heroquest not read yet in updated list. :)

Cynix - Lure of the tempress (4d) not are in list.... I have it, but i don´t are sure if disk 4 is ok.


Here coming:
-TBE Art disk 1
-TBE and New Order disk 22


How S.H.I.T. things? Are these needet? Like disk Jimmy White´s Whirlwind Snooker - EGB of Sub Humans In Turkey.

I thing your already is:
-TBE 36 (Full metal planete and Question of snooker) -TBE Another world, Music mon, Ancient games, Black jack plus 3 (2 disk)

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Hi Jake

I'll add Sub Humans stuff to the XLS

can you still send LOTT as I'm sure Disk 4 will be the same as other cracks , it will be the first disk which is different.

Midwinter 2 - I don't think I included it as I classed it as TMB who were never in Automation. Cynix is more complicated as it had members from S.H.I.T (Automation), Medway Boys and the Pyrotechnics (Automation).

Shw

I thing Cynix Heimdall is 5 disks (Boot disk and then disks 1-2-3-4) like Lure of the temptress (intro and then disks a-b-c). Not 4 like in bible read.
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Lure of the tempress is here. (Except last disk, what is totally broken.)
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I see in list not are these Cynix disks who are in Marcer´s dvd:
Knights of the sky, Populous 2 and 1st division manager (Not work in  tos 1.62).

In Marcer dvd is too TBE games Stockmarket, The search an st bec (no intros in these, so mayby in some menus too).

And Jimmy whites, Magic pockets, Titanic blinky and Rodland by S.h.i.t.

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But how New order disks because TBE was member here?

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Hi Jake

thanks for this... I'll grab the others from Marcer's archive..

Cheers
Shw

Jake

Regarding S.H.I.T.

I've got :- Gods, Jimmy White, Magic Pockets, Rodland, Titanic Blinky & Virus

I've just not added them to the bible yet :)

Shw

I still have 22'432 files to go... just create an a account on www.climatics.com. and i will give you also access to the unsorted files.. i guess doing it alone will talk at least 1 year still:( but i'm on it.. btw. duplicated/missspelled names will be be fixed in the end..


Jake-Depression wrote on 12.08.12 at 00:19:05:

I found Obliterator by Was not was (1 disk) and Winter supersports 92 by TBE (1 disk). They not are in list. Is these needet? Edit. I see Obliterator is in Hang Loose archive: http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Obliterator And TBE Winter Supersports 92 is there too... http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Winter%20Super%20Sports%201992 Edit 2: Is TBE disks actually needet? Like The Bald Eagle Art CD 1.

Was (not was) single disk Oids (not packet in menu) not are in list yet.
http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Oids

Edit:

And Arcticfox cr by Was (not was)
http://www.climatics.com/Wiki.jsp?page=Arctic%20Fox

anything else you're looking for?

I can look for it in the unsorted section and upload it..

In Animal Mine compil 4 is intro what is made by Sub Humans In Turkey.

Hi Jake

Yeah that's been used on a few S.H.I.T. cracktros and also BBC menus, off the top of my head menu #44 rings a bell. The source was also released on an old TLB Disk maggie.

Bandit: Can you check to see if you have any missing V1's? see the first post of this thread.#


Shw

There is some TBE things and Guardians of logik menus if needet...
http://www.thegamearchives.com/?val=0_2_1_0_0_4_25_0_2_1_0

I have disk where is STAC cracked by Was (Not Was). In 4mb STe crack information starts, then it load program and keep in black... Not tested in other machines yet... I can made msa and send, if it is needet.

I made just msa, so i send here.
I don´t know if it is working or not.

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I found Backlash by Was (not was) and looks that it´s not menu version. It´bombs in my 1mb STe. Need to look it better someday... Is it needet?

Hi jake

Yes please upload it and I'll have a look :)

Shw

Tested just in emulator and it starts ok.

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Chaos strikes back v2.0. 1 disk, no menu. Cracked by Was (not was) is in Emuparadise if it is missing.

whoah.. Marcer found 267v1 and 437v1!

Cheers!

Shw

Wow