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Message started by CJ on 21.12.08 at 03:57:19

Title: Re: I thought I'd Investigate (ROFL@Pperror)
Post by BadBad on 31.12.08 at 09:40:21
I recommend that you read again what I wrote about ULS. You will see that we have very similar opinions, just different exposed. Problem is in proportions - I see not much games where patch can be done fast.
But I will not talk about it more.
I will just talk about how people comes to easy conclusions based often on some very discutable claims.
So, Heavy Stylus: you concluded that I do not react well when people reporting me about SW bugs. Based on what ?  On FloImg case ? I did not get any bug report from D-Bug. I got couple reports by E-mail, and they were sorted out fast. I just saw at one moment that here stays that FloImg 'wipes partitions etc....' . Then I reacted harsh, because whole claim is absurd. And it just appeared here, without any notice to me before. But I will not repeat here what wrote many times - about why it is absurd.
I have many years experience with computers, worked as servicer starting from Sinclair, C64, Atari ST, a lot of PCs... I know exactly what may be caused by SW, and what not.
Point is that you concluded generally based on single thing. How you know how I react in my E-mails ?
Next: conclusion that my adaptation is responsible for your destroyed ZIP is also rushed. Maybe Hddriver is culprit ? Or game itself, or intro ?
In any case, I removed intro, what costed me some 2 hours, because it was protected (maybe better than original game). You can try it now, if you want. Just to add, that there is nothing in whole adaptation what not exists in other launchers. Game can be stated without launcher too - except on Falcon. There is source too. Absolute no way, that my code caused data loss.

"Ppera, is it really that hard to say "sorry" for being an asshole in the past (by posting as Wiper here, calling CJ a Nazi on Atari Age, etc.), and admit that there is a possibility that some of your software is buggy?  Like you say, the combinations of hardware out there are almost limitless so there is bound to be a problem for someone - why not ask people for help testing in the future rather than releasing stuff after only testing in Steem and a few machines?"

You know, I came here to sort out things. It means not, that I feel responsible for this conflict. Just partially. Posting as wiper was just reaction about 'wiping FloImg'. All what I can say is: be nice with me, and I will be nice with you. If you want to see who started fight, when, how, dig little in Atari forum, some 2 years ago. I even did not know who is CJ at that moment.
Buggy SW:  there are bugs in SW, for sure. But not dramatic ones. And not only in mine SW.
I use much Steem Debugger, as it make things much easier. Real tests are always on real Atari machines. There is a guy in place who does tests sometimes with his STE and Satandisk.
Finally, just to add that I have file download counters. And people downloads things. And I got so far only positive comments in E-mails about adaptations.

Where this thread leads ? Honestly, I don't know. I just know that always is better to say things instead hiding them. Conflict will not resolve by self. It requires some effort. We need to learn on own mistakes. As responsibility is mentioned here, I ask for responsibility toward people - to consult before judge. We all want same thing - good solutions which will serve people.
I did not came here to defend myself. If you don't understand it, maybe this is just waste of time.
I can even try to do something about taking back D-Bug members in Atari forum. Certainly many people will be happy with that. It is still strongest Atari forum. Of course, it depends on Mr Muguk mostly. However, you must learn on own mistakes, and understanding that need to act little different there. Otherwise all this has no sense...

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