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Way to go James! Real hardware is what D-Bug always suggests for playing! Head up to the wish list thread and post some more games

GGN (taking a look at Robotz )

Cheers GGN.  

First problem for me to overcome is to work out how to transfer all my files from my virtual hard drives in STEEM over to my Atari SCSI HD (when I get it)...  Is there some Atari file-splitting/joining software I can use in STEEM so I can transfer stuff over via 720KB formatted disks?

I think this is going to take some time... but it'll be worth it!

I was thinking about using two Iomega zip drives instead of an HD (one SCSI Zip drive on my Atari and one USB Zip drive on my PC) but apparently I won't be able to read Atari formatted zip disks on a PC.  In fact, I'm not even sure if you can boot from a Zip disk on an Atari (although they are compatible with HDDriver by all accounts).

Any recomendations?  Note that I'm a danger to myself *and* vintage electronics with a soldering iron, so adding an IDE port to my STE isn't going to happen...

Probably shouldn't ask these questions here, but I was being told all sorts of conflicting info in broken english over at Atari-Forum from PPera...  I figured that you guys are the people with the real Atari knowledge...

Hey there Mr Stylus

Well, I use Iomega JAZ for the exact same thing you want to use ZIP for.

(1) Format the ZIP drive using the TOS/WIN mode in HDDRIVER so it can be read on both systems.

(2) Boot the cart on the ZIPdrive on the ST and set it up

(3) Install Steem, and create a Hard Drive (in the disk menu) to point to the root of the ZIP drive on the PC and Steem will boot.

(4) Ignore the bullshi ppera wrong on AF, don't use his crappy imager (if you wan to keep your data) and avoid his advice - and you will enjoy many happy hours doing exactly what you originally asked on the other forum and were told was not possible.

CJ. Singing quite nicely, thank you very much.

Can you please explain.. and stop speaking in riddles... I'm confused.

Thanks

Shw

Thanks CJ - that is *exactly* what I wanted to hear!

So it sounds as though I should be able to set up the Zip disc on the ST as a WIN/TOS device, access it in STEEM, and copy over all my files from my PC over in one easy step.

Which is exactly what I asked.  No need for a SatanDisk then!

I'm off to buy a couple of Zip drives over ePrey.  Laters.

Oh, and Lautreamont - CJ and GGN didn't actually start 'hostiles' towards PPera here - If you read my original post you'd see that I was the one saying that he answered my question on AF with a load of incomprehensible nonsense.  Which he did. 

Thanks again guys!

Hehe, was short of pasting this here aswell

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My experience sofar is very good, no crashes, no data loss. However I haven't tried a 24h per day copy doodah session with it. Speed is slow compared to harddisks but about 4 times than floppies so it is ok for _my_ needs.

I even ordered a second one to be build my matashen from atari-home.de.

ICD of Rockford Illinois, USA was main source of reliable SCSI interface devices for the ST.
They also supplied excellent software for these reliable interfaces.
The last release of their HarDrive utility software allowed  (I think) Zip 100's to be formatted in a dual
mode that could be read by PC and Atari ST.
The ICD ADVANTAGE was one such interface device.
If you have any ST FORMAT or ST USER magazines from the era, you should be able to find out more.

Unbelievable!!! I just tried   http://www.icd.com/ ; and they are still there!
Good luck.

I've got an old Link-2 which I used to connect my SCSI Zip drive to my 1040 STFM. I must put it on Ebay sometime!

Shw

Right - me again.  I've managed to buy an upgraded Supradrive from techie Alison which by all accounts comes complete with a SCSI adapter build into the external housing of the Supra.  I'm *assuming* that I can therefore daisychain SCSI devices to this using HDDriver to format them.

Can someone verify whether or not this is correct?

Cheers.

Yep - I did, and you can!  Alison is a real atari heroine.

Hi there - thought it was about time I gave an update.

Last year I spotted an external HD (512MB) with ICD interface (the last one they released, with the RTC) enclosed in a really nice scsi case complete with SCSI pass through's and ID selectors on eBay.  Amazingly, I managed to get hold of it for £100 (I thought it was going to go for a lot more with the ICD card inside!).

I then purchased HDDriver, a SCSI zip drive and a USB zip drive.

I installed HDDriver on the Atari HD, with a C boot partition and a D data partition.  I then formatted my zip disks (attached to the scsi passthrough port) as TOS/WIN.  This means that I can now really easily copy 100MB at a time from my PC to my STE.

I still have the 50MB Supradrive (currently unused and underneath my desk).

A couple of nights ago (under GGN's guidance) I purchased an ACard AEC-7720U (Support ATAPI Device) : Ultra SCSI-to-IDE Bridge for £80, and a IDE-to-SD Card interface (for about a tenner).  My intention is to remove my super noisy SCSI HD and futureproof my Atari via installing a SD card in its place.

I did think about a UltraSatan, but I wanted a solution that would be reliable and fit inside my external scsi housing (so I could still use my Zips for fast and easy data transfer).

When the kit arrives and I get it set up I will provide some more info.